Martin Lewis grilled Lisa Nandy

Martin Lewis swears on-air in Lisa Nandy interview in furious GMB rant

by · Manchester Evening News

Martin Lewis ended up swearing on air on Good Morning Britain as he grilled a government minister over the winter fuel payments.

The ITV programme's host Martin Lewis was visibly incensed as he interviewed Lisa Nandy over the cuts, which have left dozens of MPs and charities incensed.

Martin, in a passionate plea, claimed many pensioners would not know what was happening despite a rise in a number eligible for pension credit, and demanded that Nandy write them "bl***y letters", before apologising for the colourful language.

He added: "You've gone from 20,000 a month claiming pension credit to 40,000 a month but there are 780,000 people. You would need an exponential rise in the number of people claiming pension credit for those pensioners to claim this year. We have to accept - you have to accept - there will be hundreds of thousands of the poorest pensioners under the £11,400 income you will not reach this year. You are taking money out of their hands. Do you accept the truth, the reality is that's what will practically happen. I'm saying it, Age UK are saying it, others are saying it.

"So let's be honest, you're willing to accept the collateral damage of hundreds of thousands of the poorest pensioners, many on dementia, not getting the winter fuel payment."

Ms Nandy responded: "No, I'm not willing to accept that. It's one of the reasons why we've extended the cut-off point to apply until April next year so that even if people don't realise right now despite this sort of conversation happening on national media, even if they don't see this, if they don't receive letters, if we don't manage to catch them door to door, up to Christmas, and they find out later they are eligible, they can still apply, and they can get it backdated.

"The reason we have done that and made this announcement early... is to make sure that people know that even if they don't apply immediately they don't have to worry about putting the heating on this winter. We are working in every creative way possible to make sure this is done. We have inherited a situation where for 14 years there has been no drive to get the poorest people onto pension credit and get them the money they are entitled to but we are absolutely determined to solve it.

"I don't accept your characterisation that we're indifferent to this, I couldn't care more about this, neither could the Chancellor, and we're doing everything we can with the Work and Pensions Secretary to deal with the fact that we have inherited this enormous black hole and this enormous economic inheritance."